i have a mother who is controlling and manipulative. I know its not the same thing but people like that don't change. she's been in counseling for a couple years....i don't know why because she hasn't changed much except she thinks she's now too good to yell...sometimes she slips up. But what i'm trying to say...she's had a couple years of counseling and i've also had probably hundreds of conversations with her to tell her how i feel about her behavior. She either gets very defensive and tells me i'm the one with the problems and wants to get me help, and sometimes admits things just to make me happy(such as being a "bit" controlling). I listen to her answers because they sound so convincing and after the conversations i convince myself that she will change and that we will now have a good relationship. But after a while I realize it doesn't change and that people like my mom don't even know they are doing anything wrong. They will either be defensive or agree with you on little things to make you happy, but have no idea ever whatu'r talking about. This is just the cycle of things, so nothing is going to change unless u get out. It's a lot easier said than done especially with kids involved. I hope this helped at least a little.
